latinos, in the end, didn't vote for obama because they were enamored with barack obama. that's what the campaign thinks, but that's not what happened. we had a terrible candidate, lousy campaign, and terrible positions on immigration. >> going down the road, starting with roberto, can we assuming they wipe the slate clean on immigration next week, but it's a long hard road to solve it, how long is the memory of the memory going to last? so lopsidedly democratic, they are not remming the 1960s and 1970s, but in some levels they are. i want to hear you talk about what's the half lifer? you know, getting it right now, how do you see that playing out? >> well, you know, judging from -- we don't have a lot of past performances to base it on other than one dramatic one, which is california where the republican party succeeded in the mid-1990s as painting itself as the party taking a hard line on immigration, and it was one that was exuberant about red -- rhetoric in images, quite graphically -- >> they keep coming. >> right. they keep coming. that was the -- pete wilson's ode